BEN & JERRY’S, CHICK-FIL-A & POLITICAL CORRECTNESS

Alright, let me start out by saying that I intended to write something about this yesterday but before I could do so I saw a post from a friend that was better than what I would have wrote.  I would have simply linked to the article; however, his blog was getting so much traffic that it was operating at a snails pace. Therefore, I want to share the entire thing with you here. Thanks to Perry Noble for the thoughts! Enjoy.
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Let me begin by saying I absolutely LOVE Ben & Jerry’s ice cream.  (Gonna go ahead and tell you that Oatmeal Cookie Chunk is THE BEST flavor I’ve EVER had!!)

A few years ago I went to Wal Mart (the closest thing to hell I can imagine…that and the DMV), found my favorite flavor and decided to tweet that I was purchasing some Ben & Jerry’s ice cream…and doing so “unleashed the hounds” in a sense.  Honestly, I’ve never experienced anything like it, “Christians” began @ replying me on twitter condemning me and scolding me for buying this product because apparently Ben & Jerry’s supported gay rights/same sex marriage.

Honestly, it bothered me.  Because, first of all…I wasn’t trying to make a political statement I was simply trying to get some chunky monkey and some oatmeal cookie crunch.  I like ice cream…I believe it will be served in heaven (with ZERO calories)!  And second, it has broken my heart the way that many who claim to follow Christ have treated those who are homosexuals.  We’ve yelled at them, ignored them and in some cases damned them to hell without EVER sitting down and actually having a conversation with someone who is gay.

“But Perry,” you say, “the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin.”  Let me put my cards on the table and say that I agree; however, for too long the church has seemed to be obsessed with the sins that we do not struggle with; after all, if I am pointing out the sins of others I don’t have to deal with my own.

People have taken me to I Corinthians 6:9-11 before and said, “look, the Bible says that homosexuals will NOT inherit the kingdom of God.”  I always try my best to point out that also included in that list are…

  • The sexually immoral (anyone been watching porn?)
  • Idolaters (anyone love anyone or anything more than Jesus?)
  • Adulterers (see Matthew 5:27-28)
  • Thieves
  • The greedy (uh oh!)
  • Drunkards (tailgating season is quickly approaching)
  • Slanderers (uh oh, a lot of bloggers and women’s Bible studies are in trouble!)
  • After looking at this list I would say we are all pretty much screwed unless Jesus intervenes.

And…while I am at it why don’t I just go ahead and throw out that gluttony is way more of a problem in the church today than homosexuality!!! (Please see Proverbs 23:2…pretty intense!!!  ONLY in the church can people that are huge condemn people who are homosexual and somehow feel like that they are spiritually superior!)

Do I hate homosexuals or have a “homophobia?”  Absolutely not!  (And, let me be VERY clear that as a child I was molested…TWICE…by men who were older than me.  I have no idea if they were or are practicing homosexuals…but I can honestly say that I have forgiven them and do not think that because of what they did to me that homosexuals are bad people!)

So, if a company or an organization wants to support gay rights/same sex marriage I don’t believe that Christians should boycott and/or protest them (come on people, has that REALLY worked for us in the past?)  Jesus went after the hearts of people far from Him throughconversation, not condemnation.  Yes, sin must be called what it is, even at the risk of offending people: however, when it is done so with a hateful spirit then Jesus is NOT exalted, thus making the confrontation of sin sinful!

We live in America…and people have the right to say what they want to say…

Which brings me to Chick-fil-A…

I love Chick-fil-A…I probably eat there no less than five times a week (no, I am not making that up!)  The fact that Truett Cathy has built a business from the ground up and has sought to honor Jesus every step of the way is an inspiration to me.  Every Chick-fil-A I’ve ever been in has excellent food and excellent customer service…and I believe I read the other day that they made 4.1 billion dollars last year (not bad!)

Recently Dan Cathy (the current CEO) was asked about his stance on same sex marriage.  He did not issue any inflammatory remarks.  He did not attempt to call anyone by any derogatory names.  He was not hateful in his comments.  He did not say that people who are gay would not be hired and/or served at Chick-Fil-A restaurants. He simply stated that he holds to the traditional/biblical view of marriage (which is his right as an American citizen.)  And it seemed the world lost its mind.

It’s quite sad really that those who scream for tolerance seem to be intolerant of anyone who does not hold to their particular view.

No one in the media screamed “foul” when corporations came out in support of same sex marriage; however, when one company spoke out against it in a non condemning tone people were calling for a boycott…even provoking the mayor of the city of Boston to say that Chick-Fil-A was not welcome in the city.  (Uh…wow, talk about tolerance!  Honestly, I believe the city of Boston needs Chick-fil-A way more than Chick-fil-A needs the city of Boston!)

All I am saying is this…I believe as an American everyone has the right to free speech.  I also believe as a Christian we have the right to speak the truth in love as it applies to the Scriptures and should not fear doing so because we may be perceived as politically incorrect.  Biblical truth (IN LOVE) always trumps political correctness.  Honestly, I respect and admire Mr. Cathy as he took a very unpopular stand on one of the most controversial matters of our day.  AND…as I’ve stated before, he did it with a non-condemning attitude.

It simply needs to be pointed out that people on both sides of this argument have been way less than civil with each other…which does nothing more than proves the insecurity in us if we feel like we have to “lower the boom” on people who do not see exactly as we see.

Honestly, it is my prayer that people on both sides of the argument would stop yelling at each other and talking about one another and actually sit down and talk to one another understanding that just because two people do not agree on an issue does not mean they have the right to hate one another for it.  Conversation is NOT compromise…it’s actually Christ like!  And our world would be a MUCH better place if those who called themselves Christians would step up and lead the way in this, understanding John 3:17 is the attitude that we are called to have!

70 comments

  • Christie Schmidt  

    This is wonderfully, awesomely & amazingly outstanding!!! Praise God!!!

  • JussRuss  

    Love the sinner…hate the sin. Don’t judge just because you sin differently than others. And, here is a finger of one of your skeletons…you figure out which one it is. Besides, it AIN’T UP TO US! Oh yeah, isn’t judging a SIN? Hmmm. Thou shall not bear false witness. I’ll stop there.

  • Brittany MacBeth  

    Well said!

  • erin  

    all i can say is thank you. this is exactly what i’ve been thinking…you just said it wayyyy better!

  • David Spiece  

    Thank you J.R. You probably put into words what the majority of people feel and are thinking.

  • Kelly  

    This is exactly how I feel. Everyone is so nasty to one another. What happened to LOVE? Tolerance and Love needs to come from both sides. Thanks for a VERY well written article Perry Noble and for sharing JR.

  • Pete Case  

    WOW I dont think anyone has even come close to putting it in a more beautiful way and yo hit every point possible.
    Thanks

  • Oh  

    http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/07/24/575261/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a/?mobile=nc

    “CATHY: It’s very clear in Romans chapter 1, if we look at society today, we see all the twisted up kind of stuff that’s going on. Washington trying to redefine the definition of marriage and all the other kinds of things that we go—if you go upstream from that, in Romans chapter 1, you will see that because we have not acknowledged God and because we have not thanked God, that we have been left victim to the foolishness of our own thoughts, and as result, we are suffering the consequences of a society and culture who has not acknowledged God or not thanked God—he’s left us to a deprived mind. It’s tragic and we live in a culture of that today.”

  • Trish Fortner  

    Could not have said it any better.

  • Don Finch  

    This is so wonderfully put. Thank you for sharing these immense words of wisdom. I’ve got to share this with everyone.

  • Tonia Hendrix  

    Awesome, awesome, awesome!!!

  • Hannah Schug  

    This pretty much describes how I’ve been feeling. Also, I love Ben and Jerry’s, too. And Oreo’s.

  • Henry Gonzales  

    Can i have some chunky monkey now???

  • babedavis  

    THANK YOU , FINALLY SOMEONE WITH REASON. I AGRESS THERE IS NO TOLERANCE FOR OTHERS NOT LIKE OURSELFS. I WAS JUST SAYING SOME OF THE SAME COMMENTS YOU ARE MAKING NOW YESTERDAY. JESUS WOULD NOT TURN AWAY FROM A SINNER, HE WOULD TALK WITH HIM TO SHOW THEM HE TRUTH. IN THE WORDS OF THE LATE RONDEY KING “CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONE”

  • Mike Hicks  

    Great article. As a Southern Baptist who believes in the traditional Baptist beliefs, I also feel that as US Citizens, gay couples have the right to be monogamous and to marry if their state laws allow it. But I also believe in the rights of citizens of states to vote to not allow gay marriage in their states.

    And please understand that very few of us who are in favor of states’ rights are not homophobic. In fact most of those called homophobes by the media are not AFRAID of homosexuals as the term derogatorally implies. We may be uncomfortable with , in theological disagreement with or even disgusted by their deviation from sexual norms, but we’re not afraid of them.

  • Vonda Guidry  

    I have a relative that is gay. I still LOVE him, but I still believe it’s wrong. My husband and I went to Chick-Fil-A in Boston, Massachusetts to back up Chick-Fil-A. Just want to say here, NO ONE was screaming, fighting, etc…everyone was friendly to each other.
    We arrived around 12, lunch time, and there was one lady that had a stack of posters with “Down with Chick-Fil-A, etc.” and she came and stood right in front of everyone in line and gave us hateful stares. NO ONE said anything hateful thing to her, just smiled. As we were leaving I saw that she had moved FAR from the crowd, and was still alone and unapproachable.

  • JJooeeyy  

    I love Chick-fil-A and will eat there often, everything I’ve tried is great. I love Ben and Jerry’s Ice cream, favs are Cherry Garcia and Chunky Monkey. I can eat Chick-fil-A meals more often because I have Diabetes and can’t eat the deserts as often or as much as I would like. I happen to ba a Christian and I support Mr Cathey’s views and his company. I also support Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream Products, I don’t have their views but I support their right to have their views, as well. I don’t believe any of the products under discussion here should be subject to be used or not to be used, due to their owner’s disparate views. Moderation is the key and unfortuneately the minority view here is the antagonistic one. Well antagonism failed miserably yesterday and while the majority can be satisfied with their position and behavior, it would be unwise to say or do more as antagonists. I’m not a judge but I wouldn’t want to be in a position of the antagonists. Im just sayin . . .

  • Michelle Lorio  

    Thank you for this. I am a Christian and I believe in the Bible, but I also believe as a Christian it is my job to love everyone. I have shyed away from organized religion (especially living in the South) not because I don’t like Church but because time and time again I am amazed that “Christian” people somehow think that because they go to Church and read the Bible they have been given the right to judge others. I may not be able to change the world but I can raise my kids to love one another even when their beliefs differ from their own. To show tolerance and acceptance to people who are different and to remember that the strong have a responsibility to stand up for the week. We have made it WAY to far in this Country to continue to oppress any groups of people. Let’s start loving each other just the way we are, sins and all, and leave the judging to God. If I lived closer to you I would be attending your Church this Sunday.

  • Bryan Caro  

    I read this with conviction and an open mind…I went back today to read my posts on this issue…I may have been slightly charged in some of my posts but it was to establish my point…also at no time was I hateful or bigotted in my responses…I did try to bring an understanding of both sides of the issue…I completely agree with your statements and especially the I Corinthians verse…I chose not to quote scripture because it seem to be inflammatory, especially in the Bible belt…I will however refer to the scriptures to inform and exhort…I want to show that we are all sinners saved by grace…and we all have sinned and come short of the glory of God…keep on keepin’ on in the name of Jesus…

  • CherieAnne  

    I have to disagree with him on one thing — Stephen Colbert’s Americone Dreams is the best ice cream ever made! It’s also made by Ben & Jerry’s. Other than that minor difference, I agree with both of y’all. I sure couldn’t have said it better.

  • Dianne  

    “Don’t judge people just because they sin different than you do!!” That means any sin. Prayer works better than harsh words.

  • Amy Bryant  

    thank you so much for writing this!

  • Ed  

    Everything said by J. R. Lee I agree with. Absolute BEST statement/comment on this issue I’ve read yet. Peace and love everybody!! Ours is not to judge.. but.. keeping our act altogether and being ready for his coming is what we need to be prepared for. Let’s not forget, the LORD WILL return some day in the twinkling of an eye.. will be ready to exalt him?

  • Cindy Rush  

    Thank You I agree…Very Well put…we are not to judge. :)

  • Allie Williams  

    Love the sinner, hate my sin! Book by Brent Crowe, Chasing Elephants.
    Great view! thanks for sharing!

  • rose  

    wow!!!! finally some actual words of wisdom..an i love this..Don’t judge people just because they sin different than you do!!” love all of this post.

  • Kim  

    I do not consider myself a christian nor do I believe that gay marriage is a sin but I definitely appreciate this article as a whole. It really should make everyone think about how they are reacting or behaving about this issue. I hope more people read this article and realize that we all have committed “sins” and have no right to judge one another.

  • Charlene B Goss  

    This is very true. I love people not their actions. Thnks for sharing!

  • Terry Williams  

    Indeed, our society generally quotes Christ in one of two ways, First is people like the “nice” Jesus and the things they agree with confuse forgiveness with “permissiveness”, or they edge over to stiff justice side and want raw justice. In Christianity and traditional teaching, we contrast the errors are both of presumption (I can sin all I want , God will forgive me) and Legalism and Justice without mercy for anyone that does not believe exactly what I believe). The point, is we cannot avoid sins without grace. The Gospel is counter-cultural to societies norms. Perhaps less beer, porn, drugs, envy, lust, materialism, ambition, As for presumption of heaven while loving sin, no evidence that Jesus said God grades on a curve. As for some people that judge the intentions and hearts of others, they would assume heaven is empty except of course those who thinks like them.

  • Kirah  

    My sentiments exactly. Thanks for putting this into words. I could not have said it that well.

  • J. Ricker  

    Thanks for posting this. It is well-reasoned and well-written. As a Christian, I am deeply concerned with the all of the animosity swirling around. So many Christians are reacting from fear and misunderstanding that they are, in effect, pushing people from the faith. There are plenty of examples in the Bible where God’s people reacted with hardened hearts and we have become blinded to this in Christianity. I pray that we will always have the love of Christ in our hearts rather than loathing.

  • Al Smith, Jr.  

    I’ll start by saying that I love the spirit of this article, its much warmer and embracing than many religious views on homosexuality I’ve heard; and I say that, having been raised in a Christian household (and schools) my entire life. However, even in that loving spirit, this article still reflects the fundamental problem of “religion” that is really at the core of the Homosexuality vs. Christianity debate. That being in the statement: ” Yes, sin must be called what it is, even at the risk of offending people”. The problem with you feeling that you have the “right” to call homosexuality a sin, implies that your view on homosexuality, and Christianity is THE CORRECT VIEW. And unfortunately, it’s in the fact that we follow Christianity with BLIND faith that we forget, WE MAY BE WRONG about the whole JESUS THING. That’s why it’s called faith. Yes, digest that! Regardless of how much faith you have, it’s just a faith, and YOU DON’T KNOW IF YOU’RE BELIEVING IN THE RIGHT THING! Similarly, we don’t know about homosexuality… specifically, if it’s a genetic condition or a choice. Given that, IF it is genetic, then God made the person homosexual and what gives you the right to judge them (I won’t even say the cross they have to bare…because who says it’s an affliction). And as a personal trainer, what really got me thinking about this was the OVERWEIGHT CHRISTIAN examply you provide. Because technically, (when I was a competitive body builder) I could’ve start the “Church of Christian Fitness Folks”, and condemned every overweight Christian. However, in understanding the complexity of obesity and weight, like homosexuality, WE DON’T KNOW what really causes OBESITY; at this stage I think everyone can agree that obesity is not a simple as calories in and calories out, otherwise, everyone that went on a diet would be thin so they could live the perfect lifestyle. My biggest eye opener was when I was in college and met an homosexual, that was a short-person, and African American! My immediate thought was, Wow…given the challenges this person is going to face in society, would he really choose to be homosexual if he could? I don’t know; we don’t know…but I doubt anyone would consciously want to endure all of those obstacles. And because WE DON’T KNOW…WE DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE. At best, in my opinion, the most a LOVING, God fearing Christian should say is, “I don’t personally understand with your lifestyle, but it’s not the lifestyle for me. And since it’s not right, or wrong, you should have the same RIGHTS as me.” Anything less than that, implies your CHRISTIAN LIFESTYLE is the golden standard. In regard to boycotting Chic-Fil-A, I’ll no longer eat there not because I don’t think the CEO shouldn’t have the right to express he views, however, when he makes CONTRIBUTIONS to anti-homosexual groups, well, I gave him that dollar. It’s no different that if he would’ve said, I LOVE the homosexual community, but still made “contributions” to those same hate groups. So, don’t assume the boycott is about now wanting him to have have free speech, it about me financing his JUDGMENTAL activities. Lastly, as an African American male (heterosexual), I believe that everyone has a right to their opinion. I welcome conversations with democrats, republican, atheists, EVERYONE. However, the only groups I don’t show tolerance for, are groups that don’t show tolerance themselves. The funny thing is that 20 years ago, religion was used to make segregation legal, ironically, I find it even more amusing for African Americans (or any marginalized demographic, short people, tall people, women, etc) who want to be treated equally, but seem to forget that homosexuals are just another marginalized group like themselves; and in 10 years, once our society learns to accept homosexual, our SIN NATURE will force us into hating another group of people that, “aren’t like us.”

  • BA  

    It is so nice to hear someone speak about something that seems to be such a thorn for so many people and make perfect sense. Now if all the (so called Christians) would have the same attitude instead of a superior attitude our society as a whole would be so much better.
    I also agree that a marriage is between a man and a woman, however it is not my place to judge someone else. There is only one person that has the right to judge, and he will do so when it’s time.

  • james klimek  

    Read your bible. It is the word of GOD, and by the power of the holy sport you can know the truth. Just because someone says I’m a Christian, that doesnt mean that they are. Our good, real, Christian churches preach the word, and nothing but. The rest mention verses to back up there notions of Jesus. Read and study, or you may follow the goats. The way is narrow. I pray that you will read and know the truth. May GOD bless you. READ. PLEASE.

  • james klimek  

    But if one lives in sin then judgement is due. Repent, and turn from sin if you don’t want judgement and condemnation. Read your bible and you will see and know the will and heart of the one true GOD. Amen?

  • james klimek  

    Wrong, better read your bible, in context. I thought that as I believed what I was told, but reading for myself has shown the errors of not reading for myself. Who do you trust your eternity too? Read your bible and trust Jesus. The only way to be sure. Lord bless you in your readings.

  • Tracey  

    Thank you for this article. It is amazing and I think it is very tasteful. Reguardless of my lifestyle and what people believe about my relationship with God, This article was great!

  • Randy Etheridge  

    I posted a reply in the a.m. this morning. Came here tonight and discovered that my post was deleted. Why? Can someone answer that question? I noticed there have plenty of posts after the one I had made. So was this because what I had to say didn’t fit in with your narrative and I stated facts that didn’t fit in with your narrative? If that’s true then I’m sure you will delete this one also.

  • Vin  

    I get that this is a neutral, I’m not taking a side, lets all just hug and love each other rob bell kind of post, But confrontation and taking a side is required. If we just stand by and say nothing and live like the world, what separates us as Christians? Homosexuality is being pushed more and more on Americans to the point that now many are saying they approve of it and that nothing is wrong with it. If we don’t stand up and fight for the Lord then we are fighting against him.

    I can appreciate your “gluttony” ace card but over-eating is a little different than having intercourse with someone of the same sex. For one it’s not natural. As it pertains to the Bible how can someone honestly ask the Lord for forgiveness of being a homosexual when they have no intention of changing their lifestyle? The whole point of repenting and asking for forgiveness is to stop doing the sin.

  • Joyce Sappington  

    On the whole I agree whole heartedly with what is said. As a former practicing lesbian, having those of faith accept me (not my sin) was important in guiding me through the process of walking away from that life and strengthening as I struggled with the temptation. But I think it is important to note that the show of support for Chick-fil-a yesterday was more in a person’s and a company’s right to state their beliefs without fear of reprisal from those who disagree and from leaders in government. People did not show up with signs that said “God hates gays but He loves Chick-fil-a”, nor were there raucous confrontations with the few protesters who did show up. People, throught their actions, were simply saying that support Free Speech; even if it was speech they didn’t agree with. I love Ben and Jerry’s as well. I vehemently disagree with their politics, but give me that Fudge Brownie any day! Had there been a Chick-fil-a close by I would have gone and shown my support for them as well. I don’t find supporting someone’s beliefs or right to express to be a statement of hatred for those who oppose them. And I see nothing wrong with Christians joining in the support yesterday. There was nothing that even had the appearance of an “anti-gay people” rally. That is a perception being foisted by those who oppose Mr. Cathy’s stance, but it is not the reality of the situation. But we should never be afraid to speak the truth for fear of being labeled as haters and bigots. We’ll receive those labels regardless of our true intent simply because the culture is in opposition to God. The one thing I found when I was still engaged in homosexuality was there were plenty of people who were willing to show how open-minded and accepting they were by loving me all the way to hell.

  • Allen Lea  

    It certainly does sound nice! But you are preaching the same sermon as others wanting to just be nice when the Christians are being nice and pointing out that homosexuality is a sin and no where near as serious as murder, but still a sin.

  • Ruth Allison  

    I agree that we are not to judge but Christians are called to discern and live as Christlike as we can. Everyone sins and it is through Jesus that we can look forward to life eternal with Him. The issue here that upsets me is the attack on FREE SPEECH. Christians have the right to speak their beliefs as well as others.We have been silent too long. We live in a free Country that was founded on the Judeo-Christian faith. Why are we called to cast our beliefs aside?

  • Ruth Allison  

    I did not see any hate for anyone on Wednesday… only an expression of support for their beliefs. The atmosphere in the Chick-fil-a was a one of family and happiness. I did not hear any negative comments. I was there to support free speech…not there to judge.

  • Dwight  

    As Christians, we have a singular responsibility, and it does not have to with Ben & Jerry’s ice cream, Chick-fil-A, sexual preference, or even someone’s personal sin-of-choice. That singular responsibility is to share the Gospel of Jeaus Christ with those who need to hear it, with all gentleness and reason. Who needs to hear the Gospel? Anyone who doesn’t know it, whether straight, gay, lesbian, single, thief, slanderer, liar, sexually immoral, baptist, reformed, Unitarian, Catholic, those living their best life now, etc. if they dont know it, they need it, and just because they go to church or call themselves ‘spiritual, but not religious’ doesn’t automatically mean they know it. The Gospel is not even about personal sin; we sin because we have a sin nature. We have a sin nature because God condemned us in Adam. When the Bible lists the symptoms of those who won’t enter Heaven, it includes everyone except those who have been saved by believing in Christ. Excellent article! Excellent reference to John 3:17! Read John 3:16 again, but also include John 3:18 and discover why those who were condemned in Adam remain so. (PS – In addition to this responsibility, our primary goal, the race set before us, is to mature as Christians, so that Christ can manifest Himself in us. John 14.)

  • George  

    Mike,

    Just looking at the comments. Yourcomment bothered me the most. I am a gay man. Brought up Catholic, but no longer believe in organized religion. Talk to a gay person and ask them if they think they are “devient” and I think the answer will be no. I was born gay. Didint decide o become gay. why would I?
    Anyway being that this is who I am I just want the same legal protections as others. And for those who look to deny me theose rights I ask why? Because your religion says so? That is not really fair. If jewish people were a majority and they decided that the law was everyone needed to be kosher and not eat meat and dairy together ( like cheeseburgers!!!) you waould probably feel that someone is imposing their religious beliefs on you. Well that is how I feel. I just want the same civil protections and rights that you have. It’s that simple of an argument to me.

    I am ok with your church denying t marry me and my partner. BUt I am not ok with the local judge not marrying me because it is not part of your belief system.

    Just sit down with a gay person and talk to them. When my bigoted parents had a black person move next door to them and there was finaly a human face to put on black people, they seemed to be more understanding and less bigoted. We are all on this earth for a short time, so why waste it focusing on denying hapiness to others.

    Regards
    George

  • Stephanie Sparks  

    Thank you for saying this so beautifully! It is exactly what I have been trying to say for days, but I was less eloquent.
    If we are truly to call ourselves Christians, are we not suppose to hate the sin, but LOVE the sinner? Some have been far too vocal, and even less tolerant, to people that had nothing more to do with what was said than to be simply doing their jobs! Freedom of speech is for everyone, not a select few.

  • D A Kopis  

    I really wish we could “all just get along” but the fact of the matter is there is a constant struggle for the identity of this great nation and what her beliefs are. To be lukewarm on a matter like this is just not tolerable.

    Make no mistake about it, the push for recognizing gay-marriage is less about equal rights and more about federal recognition of the homosexual lifestyle. A lifestyle that is without a doubt both mentally and physically unhealthy, especially in the case of male homosexuality. Christian and other moral people alike will rue the day when a federal mandate comes legalizing homosexual marriage.

    The homosexual is absorbed by their lifestyle and measures everything through that filter. Once federal recognition occurs, the push to “re educate” or immerse the populace will be unprecedented. All innocence in our children will be destroyed because they will have to be taught to except homosexual behavior as normal and with this must be taught adult sexuality at a very immature, adolescent age. This will be devastating to the moral underpinnings of our society.

    If this was a matter of equal benefits for homosexual “partners” then civil-unions would have been excepted long ago. But it’s not, it’s a matter of federal identity and the benefits,outside of typical marriage, that comes with that.

    I’m all for adult, responsible people being able to do what pleases them in the privacy of their own home. I’m even compassionate enough to want those homosexuals that are committed to one another to be able to legally share the same benefits as their married, heterosexual counter parts. I’ll even go so far as to want the word “marriage” stricken from the laws of the land and replaced with the words “civil union” to appease these people. I will not, however, stand for me or my children to be federally forced to except a lifestyle choice that is agreeable to my family. Whatever the reasons.

    This is not the time to be lukewarm on this matter. Do not be bullied into thinking your being a bigot or intolerable. If you value anything about traditional America, you have to make a stand.

  • D A Kopis  

    “…that is *not* agreeable to…”

  • chasity  

    Wow! I really think you preached a good speech. I’m not against anything really. I have a few gay relations in the family and feel its their right their life their way. I don’t condemn them for it but I at the same time don’t want too see them frisking in front of my children if I don’t do it I would be uncomfortable if they did. I woulnt want my children seeing it thinking its how things should be because in my opinion its not but that’s my opinion I feel everyone is entitled to their opinion. That’s what Freedom of Speech is if we didn’t have that we all would be screwed so to speak. I’m not into political views or where I would say my faith has brought me too in my life but I do know is if I was going to a store and they hounded me about buying ice cream because they are for gay rights I would probably tell them where to go I’m nor buying ice cream or going to my favorite restraunt because they have their beliefs about something I buy what I buy and go out to eat because its what I enjoy I just think people have too much time on their hands and aren’t happy unless they make other people’s lives miserable because they are miserable themselves so really people get a life the good book also says not to judge others and what do we ALL do we all judge so people grow up and find something to really pick a fight over.

  • Linda Pettit wonderously saved by GRACE  

    My 1st impression was “Such a great article I want to do as you did post it on my FB wall in whole and not link it”. (People tend to ignore them.) Like the writer said, I too love Ben and Jerry’s. My flav… Pistashio Pistashio! But I will not feed it to my (over weight) flesh any more and have decided to buy ice cream elsewhere. I will boycott and separate myself from the workings of the world. 2 Cor. 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. My reasoning is…Businesses give money to Lobbists and they try to push their agenda through the powers that be and make their ideas new laws. A company that finacially helps pass laws that will bring the wrath of God upon mankind shouldn’t be patroned by those who love God. I am not a bible scholar but surely the Bible teaches God’s people shouldn’t do business with the unbelievers. (I do not have a scripture for this proof :-( But won’t people in business for profit then compromise beliefs and behavior to keep their business ties going? I have been saved less than a yr. (11-6-2011) But see the teaching of seperation through out all the Bible. Such as …a little leavening leaveneth a whole lump. My taste buds will miss my favorite flavor but I love ice cream – period! So PTL there more flavs and brands. Safeway Select (store brand) Waffle Cone. YUM! Surely 2 Cor7:1 perfecting holiness can afford the sacrifice of a flavour of one treat. Surely so tiny a pleasure SURELY Rom. 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. also… Oreo is reported to be about to release a rainbow (gay pride) cookie. Okay I’ll ate Hydrox instead. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/06/oreo-pride-rainbow-stuffed-cookie-sparks-boycott/ Two points that I feel bad judgment was used in choice of words. 1. Saying Walmart and the DMV is close to hell is JUST WRONG. No way, not even a little bit close is that staement so that makes it a lie. Hell as is heaven is beyond anything man can begin to image. I Cor. 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, >>>neither have entered into the heart of man<<<, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. Hell was made to punish Satan and his followers which are spiritual beings. Its fire is unquenchable, burns but gives off ZERO LIGHT. For hell the Bible says is a place of outter darkness.Matt. 8:12. Fire that has no light??? I can not fathom it but the Bible says its so. Walmart and the DMV will pass away when this world is destroyed and recreated. HELL IS ETERNAL, comfortless, loveless, friendless, and miserable. Walmart has A/C, food/water/toilets-YUCK!,LIGHT, and you can choose to stay or leave. The DMV has seats, A/C, water/LIGHTS and in both places you can have a faithful friend there with you keeping you company and comforting and loving you. Hell – NOTHING BUT TORMENT! People need to be terrorfied and flee that judgment to come. Do nothing to diminish it. I think many worldly places try patience and some are miserable but again NOTHING N-O-T-H-I-N-G compares to the horror of HELL. Kinda of swearing there in the use of "hell"and profane. 2. The term "screwed" is just filthy to refer to use us you did and I quote… "•After looking at this list I would say we are all pretty much screwed(sexual penetrated vigorously) unless Jesus intervenes." That you used such a filthy term made me flinch. Lastly my daughter is gay and on Nov 4th when I attended he same sex wedding which was just 2 days before God caused me to fear eternity in hell for my unbelief and call out to God for a personal relationship with Him and to have his divine love in me I was Pro Gay marriage and Pro Choice. The night of my conversion I almost declared via FB that there is no God and I now say I am an atheist. But I feared God. I have never been molested. No my sexual sin was willing and by my own free lustful choice. I explored the depths of its depravity. I am guilty of the sin that I now separate myself from and am dead to it being crucified with Christ. I do not want any one saying, oh she hates gays. I do not hate my daughter or her wife, my daughter by law of D.C. My daughter, … well she is my little girl, my baby. Her rejection of God's grace if she stays that course will bring her before the jugment seat and keep her whole record of REJECTION of the Gospel tied to her. Each rejection will be judged. As for her homosexuality (and all sin) it was put on Christ he suffered and died for it. Christ shed cleansing blood for all, was punished for all, and by dying JUSTIFIED ALL if we choose by repenting(laying down this life and dying to it) and calling on Jesus to save us. He will give us all we need for salvation. Godly sorrow to fear God's wrath to repentance, gifted! Faith and trust to believe, gifted! And rebirth into God's eternal life as His child GIFTED! We can be "dead in Christ(partakers with Him in his death AND resurection AND victory over "Death in sins" (meaning we no longer are powerless to lust and obedience to our 1st father, Satan) and to sin and THE WORLD because we willing give up, deny ourselves (rewarded with eternal joy and comfort………. or we can remain "DEAD IN OUR SINS" (and be punished by an eternity in misery and loneliness) Go to http://www.livingwaters.com/ And listen to the audio message "Hell's best kept secret" Its message may save you from hell or show you how to help others avoid it as you have. Again great article minus the 2 items.

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